Disruption: Pioneering The Transcription Industry

August 21st, 2014

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Here at Scribie, we’ve been pushing the limits in comparison to the traditional transcription industry. For better or worse, our business model is gaining momentum and causing a major shift in the way people and businesses view transcriptions.

Let’s take a look at the difference:

The traditional model…

  • High cost — you’re hiring an agency, or a specialist. It’s going to hit your wallet, hard.
  • Hard to stay consistent – What happens when the first project you send in is done to perfection… but then on your next transcription, a new employee at the agency takes over. What if there’s no oversight and the mistakes go unnoticed.
  • Slow turn around time — When dealing with a company that specifically does transcription, (with the traditional model) they have to either employ as little transcribers as possible to keep profits high, or increases prices. Unfortunately, both of these are negatives to the client.

Now, the Scribie “freelance” model…

  • Low cost – Affordable transcriptions 24/7, our availability of high-quality freelance transcribers allows us to keep internal costs low which we pass onto the client.
  • Perfect consistency — Through our proprietary transcription quality check process, we can guarantee a 98% accuracy. Multiple checks and balances, editors, and a killer review process let’s us perfect an imperfect industry. The use of intelligent technology and our expertise is a huge benefit in this area.
  • Turn around on YOUR schedule – Another huge benefit to having access to a huge quantity of transcribers is that we can work on your schedule… instead of the opposite. Shouldn’t it always be that way? Choose when you need the transcription done, between a month to as quick as 8-12 hours.

As you can see, through technology, innovation, and a smart business model we have created a triple win-win-win situation for our clients, our freelancers, and our business.

The transcription industry is a perfect example of disruption allowing additional benefits and value to the provided without cutting back. Essentially, through our strong quality check process we are able to mix the benefits of human transcription with those of a freelance model.

The other less-known benefit to our model

Another one of the huge benefits to this pioneering business model is that we add value to a whole new segment of the world. Instead of just benefiting the clients and the business — we are able to give work at home mom’s, and other segments of the population looking for work from the comfort of their home, access to a straightforward way to make money.

Almost anyone will a solid grasp of the english language, as well as strong communication and writing skills can be a great transcriber. Just put on your headphones, listen, and type. We’ll take care of the rest.

It’s just about that simple.

How can a small business profitably utilize transcription services?

August 15th, 2014

businessman transcriptionTimes are changing… As you’ve noticed, the world is becoming more digital. This is especially apparent in the business world. Instead of software… now a lot of the biggest applications are accessed through websites.

This can be daunting for a business owner who isn’t constantly keeping up with the times. Don’t worry — with the right information, it’s easier than you think to level the playing field.

Today we’re going to help you uncover a cost-effective way to utilize transcription services… to save time and money.

Let’s start with audio and video content…

Raise your hand if you’ve heard the term “inbound marketing” and “content marketing” before… Everyone?


Now, your first reaction to these topics was probably a big sigh of annoyance. “Do we REALLY need to start producing free stuff for our website viewers… clients… and prospective customers?” But after some reading and catching-up, you’ve probably jumped on the bandwagon.

Assuming you’re already producing some kind of video content (like for Youtube, Sales Videos, even Product Demos and Walkthroughs) or audio content (like a Podcast, Music, or Voice Recordings of calls/meetings)… there’s an AWESOME way to get more exposure.

That’s right — instead of adding more to your “to-do” list, we’re going to explain how you can multiply your current efforts.

The power of transcription!

Just like we mentioned in one of our last articles, there are huge benefits to getting transcription done for your content.

  1. Sales Videos — If your killer explainer/sales video contains a better or different message than the rest of your website… most of your viewers are missing out! At the very least, allow viewers who don’t have access to headphones the option of following along with the text transcript, while watching the video.
  2. Meetings, Demos, Walkthroughs — Here’s another killer way to get multiple uses out of one piece of content. Try putting up some recordings of your customer support people (or sales/marketing) speaking with your current clients. It’s a great way to get your brand message across and give people an inside look into the backend of your business. Better yet: Just record some meetings, get them trancribed and with ten-minutes of editing (or less) you’ve got a GREAT new blog post.
  3. Multipurpose your content — Like the method we mentioned above… transcription offers a effortless way to generate more content for your website. Every video you produce can now be repurposed as a blog post, email newsletter, or social media piece.

And it doesn’t take more than a few minutes…

One of the biggest benefits of our transcription service is the “hands off” operation. As a time-deprived businessman (or businesswoman) you really don’t want more stuff to do. That’s why you should send over your relevant audio content and have us take care of the transcription. Better quality transcription — more time saved — more money saved… the triple trifecta of benefit.

Hopefully this article helped you understand the massive potential for transcription-related content, for small to medium businesses. Multiply the reach and exposure of your audio and video content… if you do it right, one 10-minute voice recording could become the source of mutiple blogs, newsletters or social media posts.

Revamped Uploads

August 7th, 2014

We have recently revamped our uploader and added new features. You should see a marked improvement on the upload speeds and the consistency, especially if you are using a HTML5 supported browser eg. latest versions of Google Chrome, Mozilla Firefox and even IE10.

The improvements are mainly because of the chunked uploading support; the files are uploaded in multiple chunks of 10 MB instead of the complete file at a time. The chunked uploader is also fault tolerant; if there is a interruption in the internet connection, it automatically resumes from the last position. Eg. if the laptop is suspended in between, then the upload will also resume when you resume your laptop!

It is amazing to see it in action. In our opinion, the HTTP uploads are as good as any other method now. We will blog about the technical details of the chunked uploading support in a separate post.

The maximum file size limit also has been raised to 10 GB from 1 GB. All accounts also now have unlimited space available. You can upload as many files as you wish to your Scribie.com account now!

Try it out today. Please do get in touch with us if you need any assistance.

Business Podcasting: Are Transcriptions REALLY Worth It?

August 2nd, 2014

podcast headsetPodcasting has grown to be one of the hottest marketing channels of 2014. It makes sense why this relatively new form of content is making such a buzz. It allows business owners (and bloggers/brands) to demonstrate their voice and build relationships with listeners.

If you’re a business or solo-entrepreneur trying to make the most of your podcast, the topic of  transcription services has probably came up. This is a tricky subject because podcasting is normally seen as a “free” channel of marketing. On one hand, most people don’t want to turn podcasting into a “paid” channel.

First off, here’s why that assumption doesn’t hold up:

  1. Podcasting requires your time… for most marketers/business owners, this is going to be your most valuable asset in the long-run.
  2. Podcasting benefits from your own social media promotion along with any organic visitors that come in from search engines (in many cases, companies will spend money on advertising their podcast to kickstart the growth)

Essentially, podcasting may seem like a “free” initiative, but in reality you have to pay for it in some currency.

Here’s where audio transcriptions come into play:

Think about the business goal of your podcast – Are you trying to drive more traffic to your website, blog, landing page? Then there is a specific monetary benefit from maximizing your podcast’s viewership.

More listeners on your podcast = more leads, signups, sales. It’s as simple as that.

For this reason, you need to treat the podcast just like your website or any other branch of online marketing for your business. Transcribing the audio from your podcasts and making it available on your website is a huge piece of this.

Check out just a few of the huge benefits of getting a transcription for each of your podcast episodes:

  • Convenience for the listeners – Sometimes your listeners don’t have an hour to sit down and listen through the podcast… in this case, having a transcription allows them to skim through to the important parts or copy and paste the info they were looking for.
  • Added benefit for search engine optimization – Currently, search engine “crawlers” cannot understand audio content… so they aren’t going to index and value your podcast episode the same way as a blog post. For this reason, the transcription acts like a textual map of the content on the page. More indexing, more ‘searchability’, more traffic.
  • No headphones… what do I do? – What if your listener is in a place where audio can’t be played… a waiting room perhaps and doesn’t have headphones? Most people aren’t going to bookmark the page and come back hours later to play it. This is why audio transcriptions can help get the message across to previously lost traffic.

Having a transcription done for your podcast might seem like a complicated question… but it really comes down to your business goals.

Do you really NEED to get the most views from each podcast episode? Do you really WANT to make the most of your time?

Remember that you’re dedicating hours upon hours into podcasting to craft quality content for your listeners… now take the final step and make sure that everyone can find your podcast so they can benefit from it.

Human Versus Software Audio Transcription: Cage Match!

July 29th, 2014

robot vs humansIn the ring today we have human verified audio transcription and automated software…

Who will come out on top? Find out below:

98% Guaranteed — With our proprietary review process, audio transcriptions come out at a 98% accuracy (or higher) every single time… This is due to the rigorous transcription process we implement on all of our clients’ files. First, your audio file is broken into bite-sized 6 minute pieces for our transcriptionists to take a first-attempt. Then the text goes through a review process which ends with timestamps and speaker-tracking being integrated into the text. Finally the work goes through a proofreading phase and a final quality check to ensure we stand behind our guarantee 100%!

Mumbling… background noise? Not a problem! (Usually) – Another huge benefit to taking advantage of humans (instead of an automated software program that attempts the same) comes from audio quality. In a perfect (transcription) world, everyone speaks the same language with the same vocabulary, accent, and tone. Unfortunately, one of the largest stepping stones that needs to be dealt with in audio transcription is the large variance in audio files. Sometimes, people forget to turn on their fancy microphone and instead the important class lecture is recorded on a low-quality device.

This can lead to buzzing, background noise, and unclear audio… a huge problem if your transcription software is designed to work off a specific type of audio. (Hint: This is why audio transcription apps tell you to get one of their recommended recording devices, and to speak very clearly and slowly.) The same exact issue is present with accents and multiple speakers talking over each other.

On the other hand, humans have a huge edge in this department. We’re able to utilize context clues, our own professional experience/knowledge, and our superior brain power to get the most out of each file. We can decipher audio files that software couldn’t dream of handling! Humans aren’t perfect though, sometimes audio files are so far from perfect that even a professional transcriber can’t revive it.

What about my grammar and punctuation?!?! – Unfortunately, this is another issue with software-transcription… how can a computer know when you paused to take a sip of water mid sentence, versus stopping for a sentence (period) or paragraph (period and return).

Slang Vocab… Yo!  – Think of software transcription services as having the vocabulary of your nearest dictionary. A wealth of knowledge… that’s for sure, but how long has that old Merriam-Webster been sitting in your closet? (
Hint: If there’s dust on your dictionary, it’s probably outdated when it comes to colloquial terms.) The main difference here between a human and an application is that humans adapt, grow, and learn with time which static dictionaries become outdated the day they are conceived.

Homonyms “They’re there! Right in the audio.” – Similarly, when your brain is analyzing the speech coming from your friend’s voice… you understand the difference between “To, Too, and Two” but that’s due to your complex understanding of language (not just knowing how words sound). For better or worse, unless your software can analyze, and understand your audio file… you’re not going to see correct homonym usage.

We have a ways to go with vocal recognition before a computer can decipher complex sentence structures, non-common word usage, or mumbling… for everything else, there’s our transcriptionists. 

Audio Transcription: An Underutilized SEO Trick For Content Producers

July 28th, 2014


Digital marketing is becoming more and more competitive every day. That’s why when it comes to SEO you can’t afford to miss any best practices.

Podcasts, videos, webinars… all some of the most engaging pieces of of modern media, yet they all fall into the same SEO trap. As pointed out by Moz, if google can’t index your file, then it is essentially invisible to searchers.

This is a huge problem if your business relies on search engine marketing to generate traffic. After all, if you’re putting in the time to create that awesome content, doesn’t it deserve to get seen?

What’s the solution?

One of the most underutilized SEO tactics (that is just starting to catch on with the larger marketers) for these types of non-text media, is audio transcription.

  • Getting your podcast/video transcribed essentially takes that engaging media and makes sure that it will get the same SEO benefit as say a blog post. Essentially, it makes sure that all of your “SEO bases” are covered.
  • Transcriptions increase viewer engagement. Studies have shown that video transcriptions can increase the completion rate of videos significantly.

Think of audio transcription as a helpful SEO tactic that will help you get ahead of competition — if they aren’t posting text transcriptions they are missing out on all of these benefits.

 Alternative Benefits

Ironically, there are many benefits to transcribing your audio or video content beyond SEO.

Let’s take a look:

  1. User Experience - Often, viewers won’t be able to listen to a video (maybe they’re at work, or without headphones in a library) so that entire piece of content will be unavailable without a text version.
  2. Searching - From a user’s point of view, text content is easily searchable using a browser’s built-in search function… whereas this is impossible with a podcast episode. Want to verify a specific spelling or detail from the video, just find that segment in the transcription — voila!

Tips And Tricks

Keep in mind there are a few areas where you can improve further on the benefits of audio transcription. First, make sure that the content is formatted well. Often, websites will hide (partially) the transcript in a small boxed area that can be expanded. This makes it so that the text is available but not taking up the entire page. A few minutes of video can turn into multiple pages of text, so this option offers a more user-friendly way to display both types of content.

If you are hosting your videos on Youtube, you can take this even further. Recently, Google has started utilizing the annotations in Youtube videos for SEO. That means keywords, content, and branded text or links that are placed onto videos affects rankings. Utilized correctly, there is a lot of room for improvement for video and overall SEO.

Audio transcription provides a very straightforward way to improve SEO, the user-experience, and the overall value of your content. Having multiple forms of the same content on your site ensures that your viewers can see the content how they want. This is an enormous piece of the digital marketing landscape that is only going to become more important in coming years. Stay ahead of the curve and keep your viewers happy with audio transcriptions.

Relaxed Location-Independent Money Through Freelance Audio Transcribing

July 22nd, 2014

freelance-audio-transcriptionThese days with a tough economy in many countries throughout the world… money is hard to come by. And easy, job-less work from home money is even harder to find.

That’s why online transcribing jobs are helping thousands of people supplement their income. Scribie’s freelance transcription program provides an easy way to make additional money on YOUR terms. The key here is that you are able to be your own boss, work when you want… where you want, and how you want.

While millions of people are stuck in less than desirable office jobs that have stringent hours and requirements, freelance positions are starting to thrive. Why’s that? The answer is simple… people want a way to generate money without the stress.

New systems like our freelance transcription program are allowing everyone from work-from-home moms, new freelancers, and experienced professionals to make some extra money. The biggest benefit is truly the laid-back operation of the system that ensures everyone wins.

The clients get high-quality audio transcription for their audio/video files, with industry-leading turnaround times and accuracy. The freelancers get paid a fair wage with huge benefits from being their own boss. No more headaches, no more corporate life, no more issues.

How is this all possible?

Scribie has spent countless hours perfecting the entire system to ensure a “win-win” situation for all parties involved. Everyone gets what they want, and then some!

Can’t wait to get started? We understand — here’s how to do it:

  1. Go to our Freelance Transcription Program page and get acquainted with the entire system (hint: it’s pretty simple).
  2. Make sure you fit the requirements and can handle this commitment (albeit a small one). The most important ones include having a great comprehension of the english language and a fast typing speed.
  3. Apply — it’s a very simple process that involves mostly basic information about yourself.
  4. Wait (just a little while) and go through the final stage of the application process that involves a test piece of audio transcription
  5. Boom! Now you’re ready to get going. As long as everything went smoothly, no strings attached money is right around the corner.

A Win-Win Transcription Service

At Scribie we really believe in giving back to the community and this freelance program is our way of funding many jobs that wouldn’t be possible otherwise. Think of us as a conduit to audio transcription services — we connect our clients to capable transcribers at an affordable, effective rate.

Recently, Sam Altman of YCombinator was talking about wanting to fund a tech startup that could provide “one million jobs.” The caveat, of course, was that the business couldn’t employ these one million people through traditional means (aka. having one million employees, because that would be too simple). Instead, he insisted that the jobs would be created through disruption of an industry… similar to how Uber allows regular people to make money from driving in their free time.

In a way, our freelance transcription program follows a comparable system. Stress-free, work from home, work at your own pace… what more could you want from a job that allows you to work when you want, where you want, and as much as you want. 

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June 18th, 2014

Free Podcast Transcript: The First Relationship

June 17th, 2014

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00:01 Peyton Jones: This is Peyton Jones with the Church Planner podcast, and you’re listening to “Christ is All” with Frank Viola.


01:33 Frank Viola: I need a few minutes to clutter this lecture and with stuff. It reminds me of a story where a Lutheran pastor was in a study and a woman walked into his study and she observed his very messy desk and said, “Pastor, you do know that a cluttered desk means a cluttered mind?” to which he responded, “Then what does an empty desk mean?”


02:11 FV: You did get that, right? Good morning.

02:16 S?: Good morning.

02:18 FV: The older I get, the more I’m keenly aware that everyday we have on this Earth is a gift from God. I’ve had a close friend recently pass away; she lost a battle with cancer. She was only 55, 56; she just turned 56. And then I hear about Michael Jackson yesterday. “Everyday we live is a gift; life’s short.” And the older I get, the more I’m keenly aware to that. So I just wanted to say that because it’s on my heart. I so appreciate the humour of these brothers. I wasn’t sure what to expect. In some countries, I won’t mention any names, but to be funny is like ungodly, you know what I mean?


03:13 FV: And you make a joke and you’ve just committed the unpardonable sin in the eyes of some people, but these guys were so funny. I wanna say something Lord. Lord, I’m humbled to be here. Thank you for this opportunity to just share with your people here in Canada and Fellowship with them. And I’m keenly aware that I’m not gifted enough; I’m not wise enough. I don’t have the insight to handle this meeting the way that I would like to see it handled, and perhaps the way you would want me to handle it. So I’m asking to give me that which I don’t have, and to make up for my lack and that you would reveal yourself and set many of your people free in this room, and those who would hear the message for your glory and honour alone. Amen.

04:16 FV: I wanna talk to you this morning about the closest, the dearest, the most central thing to God’s heart. It is that which causes him to live, breathe and have His being. It is the most important thing to him; it is his dream beyond redemption and beyond salvation, but deep within the beating heart of God is his eternal purpose. God has many purposes in time, but he only has one eternal purpose that he has had beating in his breast from the very beginning, yeah even before creation. And it is the only reason, the only basis, the only ground upon which any church should exist. If I can put it this way, no church should exist; no church has any right to exist except to fulfill God’s eternal purpose, and that’s part of the statement that I stand by it. I’m gonna read a set of five passages. If you wanna turn with me, that’s fine; if you just wanna listen, I’m gonna go through this very fast because of time, but I do want to show you some texts in the New Testament about what I’m going to say, John, chapter one, verse 18…

05:56 FV: Actually we’ll go to John 1:1: “In the beginning was the word; the word was with God, and the word was God.” He was in the beginning with God, and of course, this is before creation. Then look at verse 18 of John 1: “No one has seen God,” meaning the Father, “At any time. The only begotten God or the only begotten son,” some translation said, “Who is in the bosom of the Father, is in the bosom of the Father.” He has explained him; he has declared him the Father. And then there’s John 17, and if I had time, I would read the whole text to you. But look at verses 4 and 5, John 17, and the Lord Jesus says, “I glorify you, Father, on the earth having accomplished the work which you had given me to do. Now, Father, glorify me together with yourself,” and here it is, “With the glory which I had with you before the world was. The glory that I had with you, Father, before the world was created.” Alright, and now, look at verse 24 of the same passage, John 17, verse 24: “Father, I desire that they also whom you have given me be with me where I am, so that they may see my glory which you have given me, for you love me before the foundation of the world.” What’s that? “You love me before the foundation of the world. You gave me glory before the world.”

07:49 FV: The world was with God before, in the beginning. And then turn over to John 15:1, “I am the vine; my Father is the vine-dresser; every branch in me that does not bear fruit, he takes away.” Look at verse 3: “You’re already clean because of the word which I’ve spoken to you. You abide in me and I in you as the branch cannot bear fruit of itself unless it abides in the vine, so neither can you unless you abide in me. I am the vine; you are the branches. He who abides in me, and I in him, bears much fruit. Apart from me, you can do nothing. Apart from me, you can do nothing.” John 6:57: “As the living Father has sent me, I live because of the Father.” Note his words: “I live because of the Father. I live because of the Father.” Some translations say, “I live by the Father.” Both are true. “So he who eats me, he who partakes of me, he who feeds on me, shall live because of me or by me.” That’s a passage worth highlighting and underlining if you do that in your New Testament.

09:09 FV: 2nd Peter 1, verse 4, “For by these, he has granted us his precious and magnificent promises, so by then you may become,” notice the words, “Partakers of the divine nature.” Partakers of the divine nature. Alright, I’m gonna try to put all that together and there’s so many more passages of scripture we can look at that are along the same lines, but I trust these will be sufficient. “Before creation, in the dateless past, in a time before time, God the Father was everything to God the son, and God the Son drew everything from God the Father.” I’m gonna repeat that, “Before creation, before time, God the Father was everything to God the Son, and God the Son drew everything from God the Father.” This is before matter and anti-matter; this is before God created the physical world and populated it with physical creatures. It’s before He created the invisible world and populated it with angels. It’s before atoms or angels; it is before anything created. God the Son found God the Father to be His life source;. God the Son found God the Father to be his energy; God the Son found God the Father to be his existence; God the Son found God the Father to be his very consciousness.

10:54 FV: Without the Father, the Son had no life; without the Father, the Son had no energy; without the Father, the Son had no existence; without the Father, the Son had no consciousness; he drew everything from his Father. To be more specific, before time, God the Father was pouring out his life into his Son, and his Son was living by that life. Before creation, God the Father was loving His Son with a pure passionate, divine, unconditional love, and God the Son was receiving that love and returning it back to His Father. And before creation, God the Father was pouring out His glory and His honour upon the Son, and the Son was returning it back to the Father. God the Son was in the very bosom, the very center of God the Father, and was drawing everything from his Father and returning it back to his Father.

11:59 FV: And not only that, but the Father and the Son were perfectly unified. If the Son saw something, the Father saw it. If the Son thought something, the Father thought it. If the Father perceives something, the Son perceived it; there was a perfect unity. This, what I’m describing to you, was a pure, beautiful, loving mutual relationship between two beings, between God the Father and God the Son.

12:30 FV: It is the highest relationship that’s ever existed; it is the first relationship that’s ever existed. And the ancient Christians called it a “dance.” This exchange of life, love and glory was a divine dance that went on in the eternals before time, between the Father and the Son, and the Holy Spirit was the choreographer of the dance. The Holy Spirit was the life; he was the love; he was the glory that flowed between the Father and the Son, in this beautiful, incredible, magnificent, matchless dance.

13:18 FV: A loving relationship; life and glory. I don’t know about you, but I’m very impressed with that. That’s before God ever did any; before He said, “Let”. You understand “let?” “Let there be light”? This was happening. If you read the gospel of John real carefully, Jesus, he speaks and it seeks out, he’ll talk about, “Before Abraham was, I am. The glory that the Father had given me, before the world was created.” These things seep out.

13:57 FV: Now, this relationship between the Father and the Son was so incredible, so beautiful, so amazing, so pure, so holy, that when God created this Earth, He put within it a picture to represent this glorious relationship. It came out of the finger of God Himself. He created something to demonstrate this relationship, and here it is. It is the relationship between a branch and a tree. A branch, draws the whole of its life, all of its energy, all of its existence, all of its reality from the tree. And the branch and the tree are so unified that you cannot pinpoint where the branch begins and ends, and where the tree begins and ends. They are distinct, but not separate; they are one.

15:04 FV: So, think of a tree right now in your mind, and look at that as a picture, an image of the highest relationship that’s ever existed; the eternal relationship; the first relationship. It is an image, speaking to all of us about this glorious relationship between the Father and the Son through the Spirit. Now, in eternity past, that God had decided that they would take this beautiful relationship between the Father and the Son, this glorious, incredible relationship, this dance that was going on before time, but God had decided in the eternal councils, that they would enlarge their relationship, that they would expand the fellowship, that they would increase the relationship between the Father and the Son, that they would open it up and invite another being into the dance, that there would be another creature that would be the third tier to this relationship between the Father and the Son through the Spirit.

16:37 FV: And so, in the councils of God before time, God purposed, God purposed, eternally purposed that He would expand the fellowship between the Father, Son and Spirit to a creature that did not yet exist. That would not mean that this participant would be divine, but it would mean that this creature, this being would participate in divinity, in this incredible relationship. And just as the Son drew everything from the Father, this creature would draw everything from the Son. And just as the Son received its life, its energy, its existence and its consciousness from the Father, this creature would receive its life, its energy, its consciousness from the Son. And just as the Father passionately loved the Son, and the Son passionately loved the Father, so both the Father and the Son would passionately love this creature. And just as the Father and the Son share glory, the glory would be given to this creature. And so, the dance would get a little bit larger, for there would be a new partner to join it.

18:15 FV: Now, what creature would win the honour of participating in this eternal relationship? Let’s go down the ladder of creation here and talk about it, because we’ll get a better view of what this really means. You see, God is spirit, so this creature had to have a spiritual capacity. It had to have a spirit, because God is spirit. But you see, God the Father and God the Son, although invisible, initiated by God the Father who’s the source of all things, wanted to create eyes to behold the beauty and the glory of this relationship that He have with his wonderful son, eyes to see his beauty, his matchless-ness, his radiance. And so he wanted to make this relationship that was going on in the invisible realm; he wanted to make it visible, so it could be seen by others. So this creation had to have a spirit. This creation had to be visible. This creation had to have a consciousness because God the Father and God the Son and the Spirit have a consciousness. And it had to be living, because it would be a living, breathing creature that would manifest the relationship between the Father, Son and Spirit, and participate in it.

19:57 FV: So, let’s start out with creation. What’s the first thing God creates? He creates minerals. All minerals are visible, but they have no spirit, no life, no consciousness. So the minerals did not win the honour of participating in this relationship. Then God creates plant life. Plants have life; they’re visible, but they have no consciousness and they don’t have a spirit. So plants, we can check them off the list. They are not invited into this glorious relationship. Then he creates animals and fish and birds, and they have life, they’re visible, they’re conscious, but they have no spirit. What about the angels? Angels are a really good candidate, because they have life, they have consciousness, they’re spirit, but they’re not visible.

21:00 FV: So that leaves human beings. If you’re in this room and you’re a human being, you are to say, “Praise the Lord,” because you have life, you have consciousness, you are visible, and you have the Spirit. So, humanity won the honour; women and men. Wow! To participate in the first relationship, in the highest relationship, in the most glorious relationship that’s ever existed; the relationship of the ages, and to make it visible to a creation that God wanted to behold it, all for the glory of His son.

21:45 FV: Now we get, at this point, to a really important question. How would God communicate this relationship to human beings? How would he bring humanity into this relationship? And I think… I mean we’re all Christians here, right? We all know the answer to that. It’s real simple. You have to study your bible every day to get into this relationship; that’s how God communicates it. You have to pray at least one hour a day.

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22:28 FV: You have to witness to at least one person a day, in order to get in on this relationship. One soul a day, ’cause everybody’s goin’ to hell if you don’t witness to Him, it’s your fault. You gotta speak in tongues to get into this relationship. You have to tithe to get into this relationship, and you gotta go to church every Sunday and take notes on the sermon. You can’t just watch the worship team play; you have to sing the songs. And you gotta live a good clean life and you can’t watch R-rated movies in order to enter into this relationship. Right?

23:23 FV: Brothers and sisters, when God the father decided to communicate this relationship to creation, and invited the human species into it, He didn’t change it at all. When it moved from the divine realm, the eternal realm to the earthly realm, it was unedited, unaltered, unchanged. The very way that God the Son partook of God the Father participated, drew everything from God the Father. The very way that had happened would be the same exact way that would happen for human beings. It would be unchanged; nothing would be added to it. So I ask again, how did God the Father communicate this relationship? How did God hath bringeth to this earth? How were human beings to enter into it? And the answer is really simple; just look at this man, Jesus of Nazareth.

24:40 FV: You see, when Jesus of Nazareth penetrated this planet, He took with him the relationship that He had with His Father before time, and He brought it the earth unchanged, unedited, unaltered. Think about all the things that he did and said, “The Father has sent me and I live by the Father. Without the Father, I can do nothing. Whatever I do, it’s not me; it’s the Father doing it. The Father loves me and I love the Father. The Father has given me his glory. I live by the Father.” Brothers and sisters, when Jesus was a man walking on this earth, He drew everything from His Father just as He did in eternity past. He lived by the life of His Father just as He did as the eternal son of God before creation.

25:47 FV: He was loved by the Father and He loved the Father back just as He did with His eternal state. Nothing was changed; the only thing that changed was it was now made visible. It moved from the eternal divine key into the human key, the earthly key, but the song remained the same. And what was the secret? I’m gonna use a word here; He partook of His Father. He partook of his Father, and He made that relationship visible to mortals, to angels, to demons, to fallen humanity, and all of creation. Okay, that’s great! Life’s wonderful. That’s the son of God; that’s Jesus. Beautiful. What does that have to do with me? I’m a fallen human being.

26:57 FV: How does He communicate it to human beings? Well, go with me to a garden. Let’s go back there again. This is not before creation; this is right after creation. It’s a certain garden that God created. And He takes this first man Adam by the hand, brings him into the center of the garden. He puts him in front of a tree and He says, “Adam, you are the first creature I have created of a human kind. You have won the honour to participate in this relationship that I have had with my son from the beginning. You will be the the third tier of this divine dance, and you will make it visible on this planet. You will multiply it in the earth, and every creature will see and behold and give glory to Me as a result.”

27:59 FV: “And so here is what you need to do to be in on this relationship. I am God, you are man; bow down and worship me.” Is that what he said? He didn’t. No, it’s not what he said. He said, “You’re human and I am divine. I’m now giving you 613 laws; here’s the list of them. You’ve got to obey every single one of them, and if you don’t, you’re out of relationship. Obey them all and you’ll get in.” Is that what he said? No. We know what he said. He said, “I am God and you’re just a worm. I am several life forms higher than you. There’s angels then there’s Me, then there’s you.”

29:01 FV: “So you’re gonna serve me. I created you to be my servant, and your wife, when she comes out of you, she will be my maid. Yes, you will serve me all the days of your life. You’ll work for me. That’s how you’ll get into this relationship.” Read that there in Genesis chapter one. Anybody? It’s not there? It’s not in all the Bibles I’ve read. No, here’s what He does: He has him in front of this tree. And I want you to look at this tree; it’s pulsating. It’s vibrating. Brothers and sisters, this is no ordinary tree. The relationship between the Father and the Son through the Spirit is contained in this tree. This tree is the storehouse of God’s life. The superlative life of the universe; the highest life; the only life; the real life; divine life is pulsating in this tree. The relationship of the ages is inside that tree, and hanging off that tree is a piece of fruit. I can just see it pulsating ’cause it’s alive. Maybe it wasn’t pulsating. I don’t know what it looked like. Give me a little liberty here, folks.


30:45 FV: And there’s only one word given to him. It’s implicit in the whole passage: “Eat, eat, eat, eat from this tree. Partake.” Why? “Because my life, my eternal timeless, undying, divine life is in this tree, and if you will take of this fruit, that life will go into you and be part of you, and you will enter into this relationship that I’ve had with my glorious Son, and you will make it visible in the Earth.”

31:30 FV: And the fellowship between the Father, Son through the Spirit will be expanded and made see-able, and not just as an individual, but you are to multiply and spread it throughout the Earth, so that all of creation will see and behold this relationship. See and behold the glory of my son; see and behold the incarnation of love and and participate in it. Just eat of the tree; that’s it; one simple work. This was profound simplicity, brothers and sisters. The most profound things in life are simple. Not shallow; simple. This is not shallow. This is incredible. Eat, that’s it, eat. Eat and rest. And after eating, you will have energy. See? The Son drew his energy from the Father. Out of the eating, you will have energy to work the garden and then rest.

32:37 FV: Well, we know the story, don’t we? They didn’t partake. There’s only one negative warning that God gave to His man. He said, “By the way, there’s one thing that you can’t do, you don’t wanna do. I mean you can do it if you want to, but trust me, you don’t wanna do this. There’s one thing you have to do in all of this and that is watch your diet. There’s one tree out here you do not wanna eat from, because if you eat from that, it’s all over; closed curtains on the free world. It’s over. And we know that Adam and his matchless wife, they ate from the wrong tree and then the garden was closed off; they were banished from the Tree of Life. And that’s why we’re in the mess we’re in today.

33:38 FV: But that’s not the end of the story. Brothers and sisters, and this is glorious, in the fullness of time, the Tree of Life appeared again. And he came into this Earth, and he said, “I am the vine tree, and you are the branches. As the Father has sent me, and I will by the Father, so he that eats me, the Tree of Life, the real Tree, I’m back again, will live by me.” He that eats and drinks the Son has life; He that will not even drink of the Son will not have life. It’s not all about this stuff. It is the same relationship, the same dance that’s been going on from before time, offered to you and me again, the same way, “Partake of me.” And as Peter says to the Christians in Asia Minor, “We are partakers of the divine nature.”

34:55 FV: Brother and sisters, you can leave this room with only one thing on your heart and mind, only one task to eat of the real Tree of Life, and not just take a bite, but eat, and eat, and eat. And by the eating, you will grow in His life together, and it is not an individual thing. It was a corporate God who said, “Let us make man in our image and let them bear my image.”

35:33 FV: What does this have to do with the church right? Everything. It’s a group of people who have been caught in the crossfires of the love that flows between the Father and the Son, and who are partaking of the Tree of Life together and making that relationship visible on this planet, wherever they live.

36:00 FV: It’s a corporate thing, brothers and sisters. It’s a collective thing you partake of him together. We can never echo and manifest and reveal this triune God, this relational God, as an individual. It’s a corporate expression, “What is God’s eternal purpose?” It’s to expand the fellowship of the God.

36:26 S?: Amen.

36:27 FV: And to make it visible. What is your task as a Christian? What is your privilege? It’s to eat from the Tree of Life. What do I do with my brothers and sisters? When we gather together, we do one thing. We eat off Him, we feed on Him, we give Him to one another, and we make Him visible. We learn how to live by His life. Some people want house church, but God wants to move the relationship of the ages. The fellowship of the God head right into the living room where it’s been sorely missed. Some people want to end the clergy, hierarchical leadership structure, but God wants every believer to be of conduit of divine life, expressing that life together with one another, to one another and making it visible not only to each other, but to this world.

37:24 FV: Some people want relationships, but God wants every relationship to be the outflow of the eternal relationship that flows between the Father and the Son. Brothers and sisters, this is the most liberating, the highest thing I can tell you…

37:42 S?: Yeah, Amen.

37:43 FV: Is that your God has made it so that you will be unified perfectly with Him.

37:49 S?: Amen.

37:50 FV: Just as a tree is unified with its branches.

37:54 FV: But the relationship that the Son have with the Father would be yours, and you would enter into that divine dance and make it visible. That’s what church is; it’s nothing less than that.


38:09 FV: And if you want something that’s higher and deeper and richer than that, then I cannot help you.


38:18 FV: Somebody was asking yesterday, “What does Frank mean by shallow?” Well, what you heard this morning is not shallow.

38:27 S?: Amen.

38:28 FV: But it’s simple. I wouldn’t call it simple church; it doesn’t quite say it. So what is our task? It starts out with hard hunger. Do I want this? Do I want to participate in the first relationship and make it visible? That’s the first question. And then there has to be an admission, “Maybe I really don’t know how to eat and drink off Jesus Christ. Maybe, I was never taught how to do that.” Hold that out as a possibility. Consider that as a possibility. Maybe you’ve been a Christian for 30 years. I have met Christians, Saturday night preachers, that came to a point where they admitted. I have never heard anybody talk about eating and drinking for us, of partaking of the Tree of Life. I don’t know how to do that. Is it Bible study? No, it’s not Bible study. There’s nothing wrong with Bible study, by the way. I study my Bible. It’s something beyond that. It takes a group of people who live fairly close to one another, who have no other pursuit but to know Christ, His Father and His way and to participate in that relationship. This is the simplest thing that I know to tell you and it is what the Bible tells us. The story begins with the Tree of Life in the garden and guess what? You will find that Tree of Life appearing again and again and again all throughout the Old Testament.

40:06 FV: You have to look for it to find it, but it’s there. Look at the curtains in the temple Solomon built; you’ll find the Tree of Life there. And then you’ll find that it’s spilling out everywhere in Jesus’ ministry. The whole Bible is about one thing: How God’s life has come to Earth, and it’s been given to human beings to live by and to make visible. That’s it.

40:36 FV: Read the Book of John one time with this eye. Look for the word, “life”. Every time you see life, circle it; you’ll be astounded. It’s all about life, His life, a life of God coming, being part of your very existence and living by that life together. So, what is the eternal purpose of God? It’s to increase, expand, extend the relationship. How do I do that? I told you last night there’s no way that I can adequately answer that question in a few sessions in one day. But I’ll give you a beginning and in the next message, I’m gonna talk about the very thing that many of us tend to go deaf on because partaking of Christ, living by Christ, participating in His fellowship, the fellowship of the ages doesn’t work without it. And it’ll probably be one of the most important things I say to you. We’ve just got the 50,000-foot view this morning. We’re seeing things from the eternal realm, a part of God, eternals. Well, in the next session, we’re gonna get right down in the weeds; we’re gonna hit the Earth.

42:01 FV: So brothers and sisters, I don’t think I can put it any clearer on the table than that. I just hope that you have this in mind, and not all the other things that are being pushed and promoted. It’s all about the life of God that had come to Earth, right in the living room to be experienced. Not as a theory of theology, a doctrine, but a living breathing experience and making it visible.

42:25 PJ: And I don’t know about you but I’m very interested in that. That’s my only passion, that’s my vision, to bring the first relationship back to the living room where it’s been missed for a long time.



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June 14th, 2014

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00:01 Speaker 1: Welcome to another broadcast of Boomers Plus Radio, the Internet program that serves your generation. You may be part of the lucky few generation, a baby boomer, or a child of generation X. But Boomers Plus Radio wants to bring you the memories of old, the events and problems of today and of the world to come. And this, we’ll do using correspondents located throughout Central Florida and The Villages, as well as with our associates at www.villagesactivities.com. And if you or your organization have an event or a story that our audience would appreciate, don’t forget to let us know by emailing us. Your announcer today is Don Howard.

00:50 Mark Newhouse: Welcome to Boomers Plus Radio: Adult Spoken Here, and I’m your host, Mark H. Newhouse, the author of “How To Sell Your Books Checklist” and this is our co-host, the very charming Lois Podoshen. How are you, Lois?

01:03 Lois Podoshen: I’m fine, thank you.

01:05 MN: And what is the name of your book?

01:06 LP: It’s “Trying On Bathing Suits and Other Horror Stories.”

01:10 MN: And Lois, what I love about you is you can take the simplest thing and turn it into a horror story. So, what have you been up to lately?

01:17 LP: Well, I have been playing Mahjongg.

01:20 MN: Oh, no. My wife plays Mahjongg too. [chuckle]

01:23 LP: Well, I have to admit that until seven years ago, I didn’t know a bam from a crack.

01:30 MN: Well, I still don’t know a bam from a crack.

01:32 LP: Well, I…

01:32 MN: There’s only one crack I know, and that’s a butt crack, but we won’t talk about that.

01:35 LP: Well, after playing it for several years, I’m still not sure I know the difference. So I’m giving it my best shot. But what I found is this is a very very popular game for retirees, mostly women, although we see some men playing.

01:52 MN: You’re kidding me. You actually had men playing Mahjongg?

01:54 LP: Absolutely.

01:55 MN: To me, that has always been the opposite of the sexist game. I mean, I’ve seen women standing in line for an hour…

02:01 LP: Yes.

02:02 MN: To play Mahjongg, and there’s not one man there.

02:04 LP: However, that… I believe Mahjongg started in China and it was actually a game for men. They smoked opium and they bet on the games. So, look how this game has changed from being a game that men actually were… Where it was a betting game and they were smoking opium and now we have women playing it and we think it’s a women’s game and that’s just really not true.

02:31 MN: How do you think that happened? I don’t have any idea how that happened?

02:34 LP: I don’t know. I think…

02:35 MN: Maybe it’s the pretty little tiles.

02:38 LP: The tiles can be very beautiful, yes, especially the flowers that have gorgeous little designs on it.

02:43 Speaker 4: There’s only one thing you have to be careful of. If the tiles are made of ivory, you better look out the windows before the FBI comes in and confiscate it.


02:51 LP: But the old sets made out of ivory are absolutely gorgeous. Of course, some of them have yellowed, but even through they’re yellowed, they’re really really beautiful.

02:59 S?: What are the new ones made out of?

03:01 LP: Probably plastic. Maybe…

03:04 S?: She said plastic, folks.

03:05 LP: Plastic, but I didn’t realize that it was a game that really gets very emotional for many people. To me, it’s just a game, but there are many people that take it extremely seriously. There’s a lot of people that play for money, and there are people that are such serious game players.

03:33 MN: Do they hide tiles up their bra?


03:35 LP: No, no, no, but there are times when I’ll look at my hands and I wish I were playing scrabble where you get a chance to throw your tiles in because most of my hands look like I need to throw them away.

03:49 S4: Alright. Now, I’ve never understood the object of this game.

03:53 LP: Okay.

03:53 S4: How is it different than, let’s say, playing cards?

03:56 LP: It’s different because you have a card that changes every year and the card has different hands that you can play.

04:04 MN: Is this the one my wife spends like $15 a year on or something like that?

04:07 LP: The card, I believe, is only eight or nine dollars depending on whether you want the big print version which I do.


04:16 LP: It cost me an extra dollar because I’m old and can’t see.

04:21 MN: You are not old. You’re charming.

04:23 S4: Oh, I don’t know. Years ago, my first wife, she used to play Mahjongg, she was only in her 20s.

04:28 LP: Yeah…

04:29 S4: In the Bronx.

04:30 LP: Well, people here think I’m a little weird because my mother never played, my grandmother never played. I really was not exposed to it and most women tell me… Well, their mothers played and their friends played and I never had that experience.

04:45 MN: Well, how often do you play?

04:47 LP: I play every Monday afternoon and I play every other Tuesday evening.

04:52 MN: Okay, and you play with the same people all the time? Or do you play in a tournament or… How does that work?

04:57 LP: No, I play with the same people all the time, and honestly, I’m not good enough for a tournament.


05:05 LP: Try as I may.

05:06 MN: Look, most card games have a lot of luck involved. Now, is Mahjongg any different?

05:12 LP: Yes. There certainly is luck. If you pick the right tiles, that’s great. We’ll see.

05:18 MN: Thanks, Lois, for sharing with us all about Mahjongg.


05:32 MN: Lois, I’m very happy to introduce to you Professor Birdsong who is a law professor at Barry Law School right here in Orlando. On April 7, 2014, Leonard was awarded the Professor of the Year by the Barry students for upper level teaching at the Barry Law School.

05:49 MN: How are you, Leonard? How’s everything going?

05:52 Speaker 5: Mark, I’m doing fine. Thanks so much for having me. It’s been quite a school year. It’s coming to an end now, and I got quite a surprise at the end winning that award. I was very honoured that students thought that much of me. In my younger days, I was a federal prosecutor in Washington, DC. In Washington, DC, you do the local crime and federal crime, so I got involved in bank robberies, prosecuted drug deals, prosecuted murders. Later in life, I was defense attorney in Washington, DC, and now among other things, I teach criminal law and white collar crime, and immigration law. And I write humours books on criminal law, that was called “Professor Birdsong’s Weird Criminal Law Stories,” volumes one through six now. That is all…

06:38 LP: Yeah, I was very intrigued by the titles of your book; “Weird Criminal Law,” and “Weird Stories from Way Out West.” How did you get involved in “weird” stories?

06:50 S5: Well, all in Washington, DC, I used to do some radio. It was a middle-of-the-night type radio, overnight radio, and there was a guy that wrote these, or found these weird stories from around the world and put them in the city paper, and he told me that I could use them on the air if I wanted, and sometimes I did, I’d read these kind of stories. So in 2008, when I started a blog for my students, I started looking for some of these weird stories, but I just limited myself to criminal law stories. They’re the kind of stories that it’s more that the dog… “The man bites dog”, I mean the kind of stories that you don’t really expect to happen.

07:35 S5: One of the ones in the “Way Out West” story that you mentioned, there was a lady down in Texas, doing some yard work one Saturday morning; it was a windy day. She loved gardening, and she saw a snake in the garden; she was frightened, she called her son and said, “Could you kill the snake?” and the son said, “Yeah.” He threw some gasoline on it and lit it on fire. The snake of course, was in agony and wiggled into a brush pile that turned into a wildfire that ends up burning their house down.


08:05 MN: It burned down the house down?

08:07 S5: It burned her whole house down.

08:09 LP: Oh my God.

08:09 S5: And again, I don’t know if this is some kind of poetic justice or not, but these are the kind of stories.

08:16 MN: But…

08:17 S5: And here’s another one, this one comes out of Louisiana. We sometimes wonder, why do people do this kind of thing? A woman got into a taxi, one afternoon, in a small town, Covington, Louisiana, and demanded that the driver take her to Michigan. We don’t know why she wanted to go to Michigan, or where she wanted to go in Michigan. This is more than 1500 miles from her town in Covington, Louisiana. The driver refused to take her anywhere. They began to argue, and she completely disrobed, leaving all her clothes on the side of the road, slid into the driver’s seat and raced off in the taxi, completely naked.

08:54 S?: Now that’s my kind of passenger.


08:56 LP: Yeah.

08:58 S5: The driver called the police, and after a brief chase, she was arrested, and we suspected she was impaired in some kind of way.

09:06 LP: That’s about right. [chuckle]

09:08 S5: Those are the kinds of stories that I find, and I would put these on my blog and my students love them. There are just a lot of them; people do silly things. When I was a prosecutor many years ago, I’d tell about the story of a bank robber who was dyslexic; he couldn’t spell very well, but he wanted money; went into a bank, he had written a note; he wasn’t a very good speller; the note read, “This is a rob. I have a pen. Give me mon.” Of course the teller laughed, [chuckle] and rang the alarm. He ran out and was soon arrested. He still got prosecuted for attempted bank robbery. People do these kinds of things.

09:44 MN: Well, everybody has weird things that happened to them, but you’ve made sure of a hobby of collecting these. How do you go about doing that?

09:52 S5: Well, one thing, I still read newspapers. I also have an app on my telephone that gives me a newsfeed for about a 100 news outlets around the world and it’s sort of a hobby. I just collect these stories, the funniest ones I find, and re-edit, and put them on my blog. Sometimes I put a funny little kicker line to them. It’s just a hobby, it started out as a hobby and it’s something I enjoy doing, and since the students liked it, I continued it.

10:17 MN: For our listeners, what’s the URL for your blog?

10:21 S5: It is www.birdsongslaw, no apostrophe, BirdSongs, with an “S” on the end, law, all one word, dot com.

10:34 MN: And the names of the books?

10:37 S5: Well, I have… The very first one, and these are digital books now, “Professor Birdsong’s The 157 Dumb Criminal Law Stories”, and then I have the series starting with “Professor Birdsong’s Weird Criminal Law Stories,” volumes one, two, three, four, five and six.

11:01 LP: Oh, and How do the Women Get Themselves in Trouble.

11:04 S5: Well, here’s one. You may have seen the movie, “Casablanca,” where the line was, “Of all the joints in the world,” or “all the gin joints in the world, why did she have to walk into mine?”

11:14 LP: Yeah.

11:15 S5: We can paraphrase that by saying, “Of all the joints in the world, why did she have to walk into this one?” We know that an incident took place one night in South Dakota, when a woman who’d had too many drinks, was driving and got lost. Unfortunately, she picked the wrong person to ask for directions. She pulled over and knocked at the door of a nearby home, it just so happens that the sheriff’s deputy answered. She drunkenly sought directions. The deputy then told the 32-year-old lady she could not get behind the wheel of her truck or get back behind the wheel, and the police report maintains that a wrestling match ensued. The lady lost and was charged with DWI.

11:56 MN: That’s all she got?

11:57 S5: That’s all she got.

11:58 MN: Let me ask you something, though. You’re gonna be doing some of these stories for us on others in the series here. Let’s talk about some of these series for a moment if I may, what do you think about crime today as it was let’s say in the past. Do you think there’s more crime? How do you characterize that?

12:17 S5: Well, crime goes up and down, Mark. I just read some statistics earlier, well, actually it was last week that in Central Florida, crime has dipped to its lowest point in 43 years.

12:30 MN: Wow! That’s amazing.

12:31 S5: Well, it is amazing, and it probably indicates a couple of things. There may be better policing, there may be people doing fewer crimes or it may mean people who are apt to commit crimes are locked up. You have an awful lot of people in jail, off the streets in prisons, and this has something to do with it. So the Department of Justice keeps statistics and over the last 25-30 years crime has been going down generally things like homicides or homicides rather stay steady but things like rape and burglary and robberies have been going down.

13:12 LP: But does that include any crimes like identity theft and…

13:17 S5: No, identity theft mostly is on the way up because criminals are using computers to do better crimes and more crimes. This is something that law enforcement has not been able to get a handle on because it spans many countries…

13:35 MN: Should boomers feel safer now than against about violent crime?

13:42 S5: No I don’t think they all do, but I think some do, I think there is less violent crime going on in the streets certainly in the bigger cities there’s less of it. There are these aberrations like Chicago where I understand on Easter weekend, 45 people were shot. [chuckle] But generally the streets are safer.

14:06 MN: Leonard, I have to thank you so much for adding your expert storytelling and expert law information to our program. I can’t wait till you do your next segment. It’s been a pleasure being with you. Lois.

14:22 LP: Thank you so much and I can’t wait to read about “weird criminal law.”


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15:37 MN: Lois, we have a very special guest with us, this is Arlene Bentz and she is from the Villagers for Hospice. We learned about Arlene and the Villagers for Hospice through our affiliation with thevillagesactivities.com which as you know promotes fund raisers, special events and also books and businesses from people. I am so impressed with what you do. Can you tell us a little bit about that?

16:04 Speaker 6: What we do is we do fundraising. We’re the fundraising arm for Cornerstone Hospice which is located on 466 in The Villages.

16:12 MN: Now nobody I know loves fundraising, Lois, I bet you hang up on all the fund raisers on the phone.

16:18 LP: Well, not all, but having done fundraising myself for years for various organisations, I know that it is very difficult to get people to part with their money, so how exactly do you do that?

16:33 S6: We find it quite easy, when you talk to the people in The Villages, everyone has a story to tell us about Hospice, how they’ve helped their family, their neighbours and so when we go to them they’re always willing to give a hand.

16:49 MN: Could you tell us a little bit about The Villages itself because our listeners are all over the country, in fact we broadcast internationally. So could you tell us a little bit about The Villages so we understand the context of this?

17:01 S6: I would be happy to. The Villages is a retirement community located in central Florida, and now it has approximately 110,000 residents and is currently in three counties.

17:17 MN: And because it is a retirement community, hospice of course plays a very important role.

17:23 S6: Absolutely.

17:24 MN: Okay, so tell us how you got involved in this.

17:26 S6: Oh I got involved in when I moved to The Villages 17 years ago, and I started doing patient care and saw that there was a need in The Villages to have a hospice house, so I started talking to the CEO and eventually it became a reality, and we now we have The Villages Hospice House.

17:46 MN: So you were one of the originators of the idea?

17:49 S6: I was, and that’s when we started our organisation in 2001.

17:54 MN: How did you go about… This seems like such a massive task. How did you go about doing this?

18:00 S6: Well, I was actually talking to the people at Cornerstone Hospice. They had already thought about it, but there is a time The Villages was only 22,000 people. So, the more they studied it and looked into it, they realized there was a need here in Sumter County. At that time, they only had one hospice house, which was located about an hour from The Villages. So, they knew there was the need up here in Sumter County. So, they put it in, in 2003.

18:29 MN: What would you say is the purpose of hospice? To me, the concept has always been little bit frightening, how do we make people aware of what it does?

18:41 S6: Hospice, it’s a legend in itself. It gives the person the dignity and respect. It helps them through their remaining days. It gives them that quality of life that they need to spend the remaining days with their family, it takes away the scare of death and people are afraid to talk about it, but once a family has worked with hospice, they wish they would’ve known about it sooner.

19:09 LP: Absolutely. Everyone has been touched by a similar story and years ago my mother was suffering with cancer and we only got her into a hospice situation in the very very end of her disease and we were sorry that we had not done it before, but it is difficult for people to put their loved one into hospice because they have to admit that this is the end of someone’s life, but that said, how many people would you say that your organization helps per year?

19:50 S6: Right now Lois, we have over 750 people that Cornerstone Hospice is caring for in the seven counties. Here in The Villages, there is approximately may be 125 that are being cared for right now. Most patients are cared for in their homes.

20:11 MN: Really?

20:11 LP: Really? See, I didn’t realize that.

20:13 S6: 98% are cared for in their homes; however, what happens is if you have two elderly people and the one can no longer take care of that person, or if a person is living alone and they need hospice care, then they would come to our hospice house and we have 12 bedrooms in our current hospice house.

20:31 LP: And we’re talking about palliative care, we’re talking about changing of bandages and things like that and what about the families? Do you help the families because…

20:41 S6: Absolutely.

20:43 LP: It is a very trying time for them as well and they need care also.

20:48 S6: Absolutely. It’s a team effort. When you come into hospice, there is an entire team that works with the family from the doctors, the nurses, the social workers, the chaplain, the home health aid, the volunteers, everyone works with the family and when they go there, the room is set up that the family can actually stay with them. There are sofa beds in each room. There is refrigerators. There is TVs, so that they can stay with their loved one until they pass.

21:16 MN: So, this is what your fundraising does?

21:19 S6: Yes. What wine bingo is? Instead of wining money you win all bottles of wine.

21:25 LP: Wow! Okay, I’m not…

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21:26 S6: And the tickets sell out every single time we have it, the people love it.

21:30 MN: And when is your next one?

21:30 S6: You bring your own snacks and whatever you wanna have to drink and we do fun bingos. It’s not just the regular bingos. We do things such as stand-up bingo, so you stand up and as soon as your number is called then you sit down, so it’s last man standing. So, that’s a fun game.

21:47 MN: Oh, I once did that.

21:47 S6: That’s May 16th and then we’re doing something new in The Villages. We have never done this before, but it’s going to be an eight-inch cup mixed golf scrabble.

21:58 MN: It’s a what?

21:59 S6: Eight-inch cup, meaning, do you know how when you’re playing golf and the ball gets really close to the hole, but you always need that extra inch or two to have the ball fall in?

22:10 MN: Yes.

22:10 S6: Well, all the cups are gonna be eight inches large.

22:14 LP: Oh, eight inches, oh. I might even be able to see that.


22:18 S6: I was thinking the same thing Lois, I thought, may be I would even try it and it’s gonna be… It’s a new concept, but we thought would have a lot of fun with it.

22:26 MN: And when is that?

22:26 S6: So we’re gonna be having that on July, the 10th and registrations will begin mid May and we’re going to take about a 100 people and see how it goes.

22:36 LP: Oh, I bet it’s gonna be sold out immediately.

22:38 S6: Oh, I think so. I think so and I want to get started, a lot of groups will join and start doing it, so it will become a fun event each year.

22:46 MN: Where is that going to be held?

22:48 S6: That’s gonna be at our Cane Garden Country Club.

22:51 MN: Oh, And that’s right in The Villages.

22:52 S6: Absolutely.

22:53 MN: Okay and what else they have coming up?

22:58 S6: Right now, there are the two major things we’re doing and then we’ll start, in the summertime is when we do our planning and then we started planning for the next year, but what’s happening is we do a lot of… Well, I could tell you like in January and February, we have two cruises and one is in January, one I believe February 4th, one is a seven day and one is a 14-day. They’re both on celebrity. And they are full fundraisers.

23:24 LP: Where are you going? Because it sounds like something I might be interested in. What are…

23:28 MN: Lois is ready to pack her bag.

23:29 LP: Yeah. Where are you going? Caribbean?

23:31 S6: Both of them are going to be the Eastern Caribbean and one does like St. Martin, St. Thomas, St. Kitts and San Juan, and the other one does Aruba, Carousel, Barbados, St. Martin, a lot of different places. And…

23:48 MN: Lois, you can’t go, we need you for the show.

23:53 LP: Oh, I’m ready to pack my bag.

23:53 S6: Oh, there is one really neat thing about this…

23:53 MN: Tell me, how do we get information about all your activities?

23:57 S6: Actually Mark, you can get onto our webpage which is www.villagersforhospice.org.

24:07 MN: Well, I wanna thank you, Arlene, so much. It’s been really fascinating. I think it’s a very worthwhile cause.

24:13 LP: Yes, thank you, and I’m gonna think about some of those cruises.

24:16 S6: Well, thank you, and I look forward to seeing you on these cruises, and I’ve really enjoyed speaking with you today.

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26:00 MN: Living in Florida, you do know that identity theft is not only a serious world problem, but I recently read that the number one state in the United States where these crimes take place is right here. So, what I’ve done, is I have invited a very special guest again to our program. This is Jack L. Hayes. Now, Jack is a great non-fiction writer who has written about his experiences with baseball. He was a bat boy. He’s had just a fascinating life. But what we’re really interested today is, in his career in business, he learned a tremendous amount about fraud and scams, and has written a wonderful book. Jack, I wanna introduce you to Lois, our co-host.

26:47 LP: Hi, Jack.

26:47 Speaker 7: Hello, Lois.

26:48 MN: Tell us a little bit about your book first of all about fraud.

26:52 S7: Well, the “Business Fraud” book was written… In fact, it won the Florida Writer’s 2010 First Place Non-Fiction. It’s based primarily on my experiences and the experiences of other people, regarding fraud and embezzlement in businesses. Business fraud, I’ve studied the subject for over 30 years, and I’ve interviewed literally hundreds of thieves of all types, to learn how they steal and the various things they do.

27:29 MN: And what’s the title of the book, Jack?

27:31 S7: Business Fraud: From Trust to Betrayal.

27:35 MN: And what I wanna point out is, now I’ve read this book, and Lois, there’s so much in it, not just for people in business, but for people like you and I who are dealing with business people, and unfortunately with this identity theft. So, Jack, let’s get right to it. As boomers, should we be concerned about identity theft?

27:54 S7: Everyone has to be concerned about the identity theft today. The bad news is that everyone’s vulnerable in one way or another to it. For example, the Federal Trade commission released a report covering 2013 statistics and 43% of those victimized were reached through email, 21% through telephones, and 20% were defrauded through a website.

28:29 MN: So, we’re all vulnerable through email, telephone, and website. And Lois, you use these things, don’t you?

28:37 LP: All the time.

28:37 MN: Is this something you’re concerned about?

28:39 LP: Actually, I’m very concerned about it. We have a shredder, and anything that has our name and address on it, or any kind of security number, we shred that and then throw it in the garbage, not in a recycle bin. But I think as older people, we tend to be as a group more vulnerable to identity theft. Perhaps we don’t take as many precautions and thieves see us as easy marks.

29:11 MN: Is it that we don’t take enough precautions, or is it that they have the conception that we’re older and more vulnerable?

29:18 S7: They do prey on older people, and oh, your senior citizens particularly have a tendency to trust people more than the younger people.

29:32 MN: That’s how I got Lois suckered into this job.


29:36 MN: So, Jack, tell me, if 43% of these frauds take place through email… I don’t know about Lois, but I’m not techie at all. So, I worry about this a lot.

29:48 LP: I’m semi-techie.

29:49 MN: Semi-techie? Alright. So, Jack. Is this a thing we should be first concerned about, email?

29:56 S7: Certainly, to me without any question, email is the area to focus on. And the thing with the email, it’s a fairly easy area for the consumer, the senior to prevent these crimes from happening.

30:16 MN: So, you’re gonna be giving us practical advice on how we can do that?

30:18 S7: Yes.

30:18 MN: Well, let’s get right to it. What can we do?

30:23 S7: Well, to me, the first thing you have to do is to start with a good password or PIN number. And you use passwords or PIN numbers of things that are somewhat difficult for the thief to decipher and use hard-to-guess codes. By this, I mean, if you’re using a name of a friend, say that as your password, you may want to capitalize a letter in between, a letter beginning, use a number front or back or anywhere in. You want to make it so that an individual cannot sit down and go through a series of steps. For example, people use their home addresses, their birthdays, things like that. Those are so well known that these thieves go after them.

31:22 MN: I’m gonna use passion. Nobody knows that one.

31:25 LP: There are only, let me see, about seven of us at the moment in the entire world. If anybody can pronounce it, much less spell it, good luck to you.


31:36 LP: But I’m… We… I try to make up words as my password. I’ll pick a word that’s familiar to me and I will change it into a new word.

31:45 S?: Yes.

31:47 LP: The only problem I have is then remembering that word.

31:49 MN: That’s what I was gonna answer Jack. I mean, none of the problems I have is for every account I’ve got a different password. How do you go about remembering these?

32:00 S7: Well, there are different… You can purchase software programs that’ll help you remember them. People will record them in diaries, in books, in things of that nature. So, those are the basics for passwords. Couple things I really want to make certain I bring out today: Number one is, protect your computer. Now, I happen to live in The Villages, Florida. So, I know that a great deal of this is taking place. I’ve had it… The phone calls come in my cell, where an individual calls and they represent themselves to be a security organization, say like, Microsoft Security, and that they need to check something on your computer.

32:50 S7: They want to gain access to that computer, and don’t accept calls like that. You hang up, you give them no information. Another thing that’s taking place across the country and a lot of times when I’m talking here, internationally, beware of the email scams where the scammers are calling or sending you an email and asking you to verify an account. For example, maybe your cable company, they’re saying that the payment wasn’t processed properly and they need for you to re-enter the information. Well, these are scams but they look exactly like the cable company, like your bank and things of that nature. So, again, stay away from those.

33:45 LP: And they’re getting better at making it look legitimate. I’ve noticed that. That there is something from, I get that look like they’re coming from the airlines.

33:53 S?: Yes.

33:56 LP: And they, you would swear it’s from the airlines. Then on, I’d look at it more carefully, I realize that it’s a scam.

34:00 MN: Well, my rule has always been “No info at all.”

34:05 LP: Exactly.

34:05 MN: And I recently had a situation like this where someone I know said, “I’m sorry, my husband isn’t home.” And I think that’s a very dangerous thing to do because you’ve giving away information.

34:16 S7: Yes.

34:18 MN: Jack, we’re not gonna cover all these today. And I want you to come back because I think this is such an important segment that I think everybody’s gonna be wanting to listen to this. But going back on this, one thing I wanna talk to you about, when you talk about protecting your computer, right?

34:31 S7: Yes.

34:33 MN: Okay. Now, we’re not talking about physically protecting your computer. We’re talking about… What is it that…

34:37 LP: Software.

34:38 S7: We’re talking about the software because if they can get to that computer… I use… For example, the fraudster that uses the thing of they’re from Microsoft Security. They aren’t from Microsoft Security. They want to get their software into that computer and once that happens, they’ll have your bank accounts. They’ll have your personal identification, any passwords that you have. And these are things you absolutely must avoid.

35:10 LP: Like they say, “Now is the time to update your software. Something’s been detected.” And it’s not your program. It’s another program that wants to get your information.

35:19 MN: Is a good general rule not to give information to anybody?

35:25 S7: Absolutely. You should never give information unless you specifically know the source that you’re giving it to.

35:33 MN: Okay. Jack, as I said, what is the name of your book?

35:36 S7: Business Fraud: From Trust to Betrayal.

35:40 MN: Good. You are going to be back a lot. Because this is so vital for boomers.

35:42 LP: Absolutely, we will take [35:43] ____ from you. Boomers need to hear this.

35:46 MN: And you’re performing an important public service. So Jack, I wanna thank you so much. We’ll be talking to you very soon.


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37:08 MN: Lois, we had such a good time last time with our talk about lie detectors that I asked Bill to come on back.

37:16 LP: So you’re gonna make me sweat again.

37:18 MN: We’re gonna make you sweat again. So this is William J. Warner, author of ‘Going Knee to Knee’ Confessions, Tales and Tribulations from… Are you ready Lois?

37:27 LP: Oh yes.

37:28 MN: Inside the FBI’s Polygraph Program. And this is the first book of it’s kind that I know of, or that anybody knows of that actually is from inside one of the FBI’s most revered programs. Bill welcome back.

37:40 Speaker 8: Thank you Mark.

37:41 MN: We’re talking about verbal cues here which can help us understand not only if a criminal has committed a crime, but if a family member’s not telling you the truth, if a politician is not telling the truth, right?

37:55 S8: Right.

37:56 MN: Okay. So, let’s talk about a couple of ones we talked about the last time. You talked about selective memory. Again, what does that mean?

38:04 S8: Selective memory. When you ask somebody where they were like say the day before, say I were to ask if you were at the park the day before and there was a heinous crime committed there, say in the morning. And I’ll ask you whether or not you were there and you come back with “I don’t recall being there. I don’t remember ever having gone there” things of this nature, that’s selective memory.

38:32 MN: Now when you have… You’re the criminal okay, are you saying that generally when they give you that kind of statement “I don’t remember” that sort of triggers a light bulb in your head?

38:45 S8: Sometimes. It depends on how much time we’re looking at. If the event occurred a year ago, I might give you some leeway there and say maybe he really doesn’t recall that. However, if you are guilty of the heinous act, you know you did the deed.

39:04 MN: So you would know where you were.

39:05 S8: You would know where you were. You might not recall the exact time, but you know you did the deed. Now if that happened yesterday or a week ago, you’re gonna know the day and the time.

39:15 MN: But I’d be kind of suspicious if someone told me they know exactly where they were a year earlier.

39:21 LP: Well, but is it true that people remember, let’s say the bad things more than they remember the good things that happen?

39:30 S8: I think so especially if you’re guilty of doing the bad things.

39:34 LP: So that certainly would be a trigger to say, “Well, I don’t know, I don’t remember… ”

39:38 MN: Gee, I don’t remember anything bad I’ve ever done.


39:40 LP: That could be, I hate to be sexist to you. But…

39:45 MN: You’re gonna do it aren’t you?

39:46 LP: I’m gonna do it. Men do tend to have selective memory.

39:51 MN: Men do…

39:52 LP: Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry.


39:55 MN: And women are perfect. Go ahead.

39:56 LP: Yes.

39:57 MN: Invoking religion.

39:58 S8: Invoking religion. “I swear on the Bible, as God is my witness. How could you accuse me of that I’m a Christian man.” These are examples of people invoking religion into the interview really unnecessarily.

40:12 MN: And this arouses your suspicion.

40:14 S8: It does, but we take this with regard to other verbal cues that we may be seeing or hearing during the discussion.

40:24 MN: Such as?

40:24 LP: Everything is in context.

40:26 S8: Such as the one we just talked about, selective memory.

40:28 MN: Oh I forgot about that, already.

40:30 S8: Right.


40:32 S8: Or people who failed to answer the question directly.

40:35 MN: Oh Lois, you never answer my questions directly.

40:38 LP: I try not to Mark.

40:39 MN: Okay.


40:40 LP: It will get me in trouble.

40:41 MN: How about challenging the interviewer which is what Lois always does.

40:46 S8: Well, when you accuse somebody of a crime, or you confront somebody about a crime and they come right back to you and attempt to turn the table on you, take control of the interview basically by suggesting that “you’ve insulted me by implying that I would do such a thing,” they’re challenging you.

41:07 MN: And again…

41:08 LP: And deflecting away from themselves.

41:10 S8: Exactly, exactly.

41:11 MN: So if I go to a car salesman and I say to him “Are you giving me a fair price?” And he says, “Oh I would never do anything but that.”

41:21 LP: That’s right. “I’m an honest guy, why would I tell you something that’s not true”

41:24 MN: Or “I’m you’re good friend.”

41:26 S8: My antenna would go up and I would be very cautious as to what I hear or see throughout the remainder of the conversation.

41:34 MN: Alright, now what about this one ‘Giving overly specific answers.’ What does that mean?

41:39 S8: Answers that are not directly in response to the question but they’re tangential to the issue. For example, I can remember a case where a patient was poisoned at a hospital and the doctor was interviewed. Instead of answering the question directly, he deflected it to a similar issue that happened to the hospital across the street and then he talked about what a tremendous staff he had and nothing like this sort of thing could happen on his floor or on his watch. He never did answer the question directly.

42:16 MN: So, in other words, if someone gives you an anecdote, for example, if you ask someone a question and give you a long-winded anecdote, that’s another trigger?

42:24 S8: Exactly.

42:25 MN: Okay. How about qualified responses, what does that mean?

42:28 S8: Qualified responses, ‘I believe, I think so, perhaps, maybe’. You hear these everyday when you’re talking to people.

42:37 MN: Yeah, we do.

42:39 S8: And you see, so many times and somebody says, “Well, I believe so or I think so,” we mistakenly take that as the truth, as he in fact knows. Well, if he qualified it and said, “I believe” or “I think,” he doesn’t really know.

42:58 LP: Very good point.

42:59 S8: Doesn’t really know. We could use this with our in-laws. I mean this is the kind of thing that is so practical. It makes you listen to things better.

43:09 LP: I’m wondering about you Bill. Because…


43:13 MN: Because it’s scary having them on, isn’t it?

43:14 LP: It is. I mean you must be fun at a party because you’re sitting there, listening to people tell you all kinds of stories that you know are absolutely not true.

43:25 MN: Well, I wouldn’t want to be used car salesman with him. Would you?

43:27 LP: No, I would not.

43:29 MN: Sometimes, voice inflection, controlling voice inflection, what does that mean?

43:33 S8: These are the people that often times, they’re faking their voice inflection, they’re talking very, very monotonaly in an effort to lead you to believe that they are very easy-going, soft-spoken…

43:50 MN: Does it match their body language? How do you know that’s not sincere or genuine?

43:57 S8: Sometimes, it just hits you right in the face, when people don’t normally speak that way and sometimes, you’re looking for some non-verbal cues which will get into, it’ll…

44:07 MN: Yeah. I think you’re right.

44:07 LP: I was just thinking that somebody that’s talking kinda in monotones but they’re ringing their hands or tapping their foot or something like that would be a give-away that maybe it’s not so smooth with them.

44:19 S8: Exactly. You’re looking for these clusters of things that happen simultaneously.

44:23 MN: Alright. What about protest statements, what does that mean?

44:26 S8: Protest statement, the person who explains to you how insulted they were that you would confront them on such an issue. If you go back in time, if you remember the Susan Smith affair when the…

44:41 MN: When she killed her children.

44:42 S8: Right.

44:42 LP: Yes.

44:43 S8: You know one of her responses was that “I love my kids. I couldn’t possibly harm them.” I don’t know whether that’s an exact quote but that’s a quote…

44:51 MN: So when you’ve heard that, you right away clued into it?

44:55 LP: Your antenna went up right?

44:56 S8: Your antenna goes up and you’re waiting for more. You’re waiting more. You can’t just hang your hat on that alone.

45:01 LP: Right.

45:03 MN: So, it’s a conglomerate of…

45:04 S8: Right. Exactly. Right.

45:05 MN: Okay. So, if I say, “I would never kill her or I loved her, how dare you say that?” is that what we’re talking about as a protest statement?

45:12 S8: Exactly.

45:14 MN: But it couldn’t possibly be genuine or is it…

45:16 S8: It can be. It can be genuine.

45:18 MN: It’s the whole conglomerate of thinking [45:19] ____.

45:19 S1: Yeah, you’ve got to look at the whole picture. Looking for other clusters of verbal and non-verbal cues.

45:26 LP: Okay. So…

45:27 MN: Alright. Now, this one, I get all the time. I already answered that question. I don’t know how many students say things like that. Now, why is that a verbal cue?

45:35 S8: Well, they simply don’t wanna repeat the lie, oftentimes, and that’s the biggest reason that can be a verbal cue.

45:43 MN: Well, I’m gonna tell you this, this is no lie, I have enjoyed our interview so much.

45:48 LP: Same here. Wonderful.

45:48 MN: It’s such a valuable skill. I don’t know if I’m gonna like myself listening to everybody like this, Lois.

45:54 LP: Well, you made me think about things that people have said to me and now, it’s in a totally different light. So, [46:03] ____ that I have to say. Now, it’s getting scary.

46:05 MN: And I wanna recommend Bill’s book. It’s called ‘Going Knee to Knee: Confessions, Tales and Tribulations from Inside the FBI’s Polygraph Program’. And what will you be talking to us about next, Bill?

46:15 S8: Next time, I’d like to speak a little bit about the non-verbal cues.

46:19 MN: You mean body language, things of that nature?

46:20 S8: Exactly.

46:21 LP: I’m gonna have to sit on my hand.

46:22 MN: I was just gonna say the same exact thing.


46:38 MN: Lois, you got your sweats on?

46:41 LP: Not yet.

46:42 MN: You know Louis, one of the things about becoming a boomer is we don’t wanna lose that flexibility, we don’t wanna lose that strength, that beauty that you have. So, we’ve got a special guest again. And this is a very good friend. This is Peter Shiana. Now, Peter is also a wonderful author. He wrote a book called ‘Imperfect Acts’ which we talked about at our other program called “Author’s Beat”. So, I asked Peter if he would come on and do something special for us today. And Pete, the segments we’re calling, ‘Seize the Day’ or ‘Size the day’?

47:18 Speaker 9: Size the day.

47:20 MN: Okay. Tell us a little bit about ‘Size the Day?’

47:23 S9: Well, ‘Size the Day’ came into being years ago when I was working and living on an airplane every other week. It’s for people who don’t have time to exercise.

47:33 MN: Like Lois and me.

47:35 S9: Like me.

47:35 LP: Oh, Well, excuse me, I exercise five to six times a week.

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47:39 MN: Where is the lie detector guy?

47:41 LP: Bring him back. Strap me in.


47:45 S?: Alright, Lois. It’ actually true because as we said before, Lois is a perfect size…

47:49 LP: Well, now, I think I’m up to it too. I cannot tell a lie. I think I’m up to the size too.

47:55 S?: She loves shopping for bathing suits.


47:59 S?: Alright, that’s a great plug. Why you got a great plug Lois?

48:02 LP: My book is called “Trying on Bathing Suits and Other Horror Stories” because women in particular, of course this happens to men too, we’re never satisfied with the way we look. Now…

48:15 MN: But you know what? Even with me, I was so aware of this business of image that I wrote a book called “The Midnight Dive Club,” and what does it deal with?

48:27 LP: Yes. Of course, the way we look.

48:28 MN: The way we look and also our perception.

48:30 LP: That’s right. And the way other people perceive us, of course.

48:34 MN: But what we’re doing here is a little bit different because, Peter, tell me the purpose of what it is you’re trying to do for us.

48:40 S9: Well, I’ll get into this more later, but as we grow older, we do two things. We tend to pick up weight, we tend to lose energy, our body tone isn’t what it was 30 years ago, and this is the way, I’m gonna put this in perspective, and how we can attack these dangers.

49:00 MN: Okay. Now, the problem I’m finding is that a lot of these programs, you watch this one, what’s her name? Michaels, Jillian Michaels, I think that’s her name.

49:12 LP: Yeah. This is a personal trainer.

49:15 MN: Alright. Now, you look at her and she’s a young person and she’s… I can’t emulate that.

49:22 LP: No, you can’t. But that doesn’t mean that you shouldn’t try to keep in shape, Mark.

49:27 MN: I think I just got insulted, folks. Well, I’m in pretty good shape. But, okay.


49:31 MN: Peter, so what is it we’re gonna do here?

49:34 S9: Alright. Well, let’s be honest. Our image and energy have diminished. We know we need more exercise. But demands on our time, we scant time and energy for exercise. Our spouse or significant other, kids, grandkids, job, elderly parents, our home, cars, professional organization, our volunteer groups. Whoa! Who has time or energy?

49:59 MN: So in other words, what you’re saying is that because all these other things are priority, what happens to us?

50:07 S9: We don’t have time to do things to keep our bodies in better shape.

50:11 MN: Now, when Peter approached us with this idea, we said, “Well, how much time are we gonna need?”.

50:18 S9: You’re not gonna need any extra time. That’s the key to this.

50:21 MN: Go ahead.

50:22 S9: Okay. Two principles drive the program, Mark. Principle number one, you must derive the most benefit for the least cost. Because time is your most precious asset, the use of your time is the cost, is the cost factor in your cost benefit ratio. Time equals cost. We will spend wisely.

50:47 MN: So when you’re talking about this, you’re saying basically that people who are busy will find your tips something that they can do.

50:56 S9: That’s right.

50:56 MN: Because of the time element.

50:58 S9: That’s right.

50:58 LP: No. It’s better to spend less time doing more strenuous exercise than more time doing something that isn’t…

51:05 S9: Can you say that again so I understand it?

51:07 LP: It’s better to spend less time doing something that you’re really going to sweat at, than let’s say… So, I’m on the treadmill going very fast for half an hour is more value than if I walk slowly for an hour.

51:22 S9: No and no. We’re going to… These exercises are not strenuous, and they’re not time consuming either way.

51:30 MN: Okay. So you’re gonna show us how to tone up and tap into our energy reserves with virtually no extra investment of time, is that it?

51:39 S9: Exactly.

51:40 MN: Okay. And what’s the second principle?

51:43 S9: Number two, cumulative effect powers your physical well being. The impact with the principle of cumulative effect dwarfs diets and rigorous exercise programs. Cumulative effect is like the miracle of compound interest.

51:59 MN: Alright. Explain that to me so that I understand it. When you say cumulative effect, what are we talking about?

52:06 S9: We’re going to do little things everyday in between other activities that are going to add up to our well being.

52:15 MN: So these can be done any time?

52:16 S9: Any time.

52:17 MN: Because, for example, when I do the treadmill. And yes, you can get the lie detector guy here, Lois. I have to set aside a certain amount of time. And if I don’t make it a priority first thing in the morning. It doesn’t happen. Is that your experience too?

52:31 LP: I think that’s true for most people. I think so.

52:34 MN: So, and what Peter is doing that’s different, if I understand correctly, is you’re saying we don’t have to spend a lifetime, but we have to basically… It’s gonna be interspersed in our daily activities.

52:46 S9: Right.

52:47 MN: So, for example, one of the things in rehab for example, they say getting up and out of a chair, getting up and out of a chair. Whenever you can do that, you should do that because that’s exercise. Is that good summary?

52:58 S9: Exactly, exactly.

52:59 MN: Alright. What else?

53:00 S9: Well, let me put it in perspective, if I may.

53:03 MN: Sure.

53:04 S9: Okay. Ageing and the lack of exercise result in, as we said…

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53:09 S9: Physical strength and often, of course, finding increase in weight. As a rule of thumb, men and women gain 10 pounds per decade. That’s one pound per year. Gerontologists and many insurance companies accept as statistically normal that a five foot six inch woman who weighs a 118 pounds at age 25 will progress to 148 pounds by age 65.

53:39 MN: So, now when you say that this is something insurance companies know and accept, with the current emphasis on thin as being in, is that still something that is expected, this kind of growth? I mean you’re talking about someone gaining 10 pounds per decade. Lois, you haven’t gained 10 pounds per decade.

54:00 LP: I haven’t gained 10 pounds since…

54:04 MN: Because you work at night.

54:05 LP: You know, that’s very true. People say to me “You’re so lucky you’re thin,” and I really resent that, because I watch what I eat and I exercise. Yeah, but I think that we’ve come to expect that people are going to get heavy. That’s the problem, that we expect that that’s going to happen, and it doesn’t necessarily have to happen.

54:31 MN: Okay.

54:32 LP: It’s harder as we get older, but it doesn’t necessarily have to happen, would you agree?

54:37 S9: I agree, and the rest of this program, Mark, is not for Lois, by the way.


54:43 S9: She doesn’t need this.

54:46 LP: Not today.

54:46 MN: I don’t know if [54:46] ____ Lois Lanes of the world.

54:49 LP: Not today.

54:50 MN: But she’s in a constant…

54:53 S1: Battle.

54:55 MN: Battles for it, and in a way, so am I. I also exercise, but I think I have more of your philosophy. I also think I have a very fast metabolism, because I don’t really gain weight. I’ve been the same weight for 30, 40 years. Is that your experience, too?

55:08 S9: Yes.

55:09 MN: But you also…

55:10 S9: And this doesn’t rule out exercise. I love pickleball, I love golf and tennis, and treadmills, all of that is fine. But this is in addition.

55:19 MN: And these are little things that we all can do.

55:22 S9: Absolutely.

55:22 LP: Like you don’t have to go to the gym, and you don’t have to put on sweat pants.

55:25 S9: Not at all.

55:27 LP: And worry about how you look at to other people.

55:29 MN: Okay. Go ahead.

55:30 S9: The problem is, the progression of weight is so gradual, that it’s hard to fight. So we periodically go on a crash program consisting of the latest fad diet and an exercise schedule to kill an Olympian. How about some volcanic ash and papaya juice three times a day? Jogging, swimming, pumping iron, isn’t that great? In a week or two, maybe a month, it all crashes on the rocks of daily routine.

55:59 MN: And then you come back to the same problem.

56:01 S9: Yeah. It’s always…

56:02 MN: So if we can make… What you’re gonna do is try and make exercise as simple enough, time-effective enough, and short enough that we can all do it. Is that basically a summary?

56:12 S9: That’s right.

56:13 MN: Well Peter, I can’t wait to have you on our next program.

56:15 LP: We look forward to hearing about this, definitely.

56:17 MN: Okay. You’ve already given us something to look forward to, so our next segment will be one of these exercises, and we’ll be having these different segments to feature these exercises periodically.


56:43 MN: Well Lois, looks like we’ve wrapped up another program.

56:45 LP: Yes. Another interesting array of authors and experts that, so we can enlighten our lives.

56:54 MN: And you enlightened me about Mahjongg today. I never realized there was so much to learn about Mahjongg.

56:59 LP: Yes. Well, we have to get an expert here, because I am certainly not the expert. That’s what we’re gonna work on, folks, a Mahjongg expert.

57:07 MN: It’s been a lot of fun today. I’ve enjoyed. Some of our guests have been featured on thevillagesactivities.com. If anybody out there has a special event, or a fund raiser that they’d like to promote, it’s a great website for that. So Lois, until our next program, I wanna thank you so much for being here with me.

57:27 LP: Yes, and as usual, an exciting show.

57:31 MN: We hope everybody will come back to see us on Boomers Plus radio adult spoken here.


57:41 S1: Thanks again to today’s guest correspondents. Please join us again for another fascinating addition of Boomers Plus radio, located at www.blogtalkradio.com. And please tell your friends, families, and everyone about this exciting, fast-paced program that’s just for you and everyone who thinks young and wants to stay active. All of our programs are available free, anytime you want, archived at www.boomersplusradio.com. That’s where you can also contact us and let us know what’s on your mind. Our hosts have been Mark H. Newhouse, author of “How to sell your books checklist”, and “The midnight diet club”. And Lois Podoshen, author of “Trying on bathing suits and other horror stories”.

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